Lauren Langman: 0:09

Welcome to the Absolute Dog Sex in a Squirrel podcast. I'm Lauren Langman. I'm one of the world's leading dog trainers and it's my mission to help owners become their dog's top priority. In each episode, you'll discover how to gain trust and communicate with your dog like never before, creating unbreakable bonds that make you the most exciting part of their world. Okay, well, that was fun, wasn't it? We had a podcast with no audio. No audio. So we are now take two of podcasts. We were talking heads too funny.

Lauren Langman: 0:39

So tummies, we're talking tummies today, and I know you've had a fairly stressful 24 hours with a poorly tummy and I don't mean your tummy, linda. I'm fairly fit and well, actually. Thank you very much. High five to fit and well. I'll take high five to fit and well. You're fit and well. But little Bobble, he's a baby. He's not a baby human, he's a baby dog and he is. He's a small poodle. He's a tiny poodle. He's like one kilo of poodle and he's had a bad tummy. He's been away from home, he's been training, he's had some rich food, he's had some fun experiences and his tummy's upset.

Linda: 1:13

It is, and his tummy was not a good tummy before he got here. Yeah, remember, he's a poor eater. I haven't been able to get things into him that would build his gut biome before we came.

Lauren Langman: 1:28

And you said he's a poor eater. The reason you can't build him easily is because he actually won't eat it. So all of the things that we might use typically to help build a gut microbiome, he actually refuses or potentially will refuse. So we've got the tummy episode. Right now, we're going to talk about the gut microbiome and we're going to talk about what we can do in the future, and we're going to talk about the gut microbiome and we're going to talk about what we can do in the future and we're going to talk about, um, how we might feel as owners, but we are in the middle of poonami. So, whilst we're in the middle of poonami, actually what can we do?

Lauren Langman: 1:53

And I think this is really important you're laughing. Still, it's really important. We acknowledge that. You know what. You've been up every hour and a half, yes, in the night, yes, you're looking great considering and you actually need a solution right now. So we're going to talk through the solutions right now because, obviously, number one, if this dog is lethargic, if this dog is lacking like lust and like life, is they need to get to the vet. Yes, and I will check temperature. If you've got high temperature or if you're running like a fever. You need to get this dog to a vet and ultimately, whilst I typically and l Linda typically won't take our dogs to a vet in an episode like this, our dogs aren't lethargic and our dogs are still acting fairly normal, full of life and got spark.

Linda: 2:32

It's about the spark. If that spark's still there. You see it in their eyes, don't you? Yes, you do, you see it in their eyes.

Lauren Langman: 2:37

If your dog is not, and sometimes I mean they're not smelling right, and I know that sounds odd, but sometimes when a dog really smells odd, you know that there's something more more sinister maybe going on or more serious, or it can just be a real, real tummy bug, um. But in the first instance, let's say the dog is um good temperature or normal temperature, in the normal range and temperature. Remember you take the temperature up the bottom, so it's a rectal temperature when you do um any dog's temperature. But let's say our, our dog is fairly normal in themselves. He is normal in himself, right? How is he behaving?

Linda: 3:08

He's full of beans. He's playing. He's trying to steal the big dog's food. He wouldn't actually eat it if he could, but he's possessive. He's still a cheeky chappy. He's still being cheeky. He's still biting and being a pain.

Lauren Langman: 3:22

And how old is he? You know biting and being a pain, and how old is he? He's four months. So he's four months old, still being a typical puppy and still being bouncy. So we know he's got a bad tummy. We know he's been up every hour and a half now.

Lauren Langman: 3:32

A lot of students and a lot of people that I know they don't necessarily know what to go to and they don't have their first aid kit, so to speak. And you've come away and you've got your first aid kit and the first thing you're going to go to is Rescue Canine or a similar product which is sort of your probiotics, your clay, your tummy clay, your probiotics, your electrolyte, which is really important, those types of products. Ours is AOK9. It's Rescue Canine and it's the rapid support. That's what you're going to use in the middle of the poo-nami. Yes, you've got the poo happening.

Lauren Langman: 3:59

It's not pleasant for anyone. It's not pleasant for you. It's not pleasant for anyone. It's not pleasant for you. It's not pleasant for the dog, it's not pleasant for the other dogs. Um, I know, in my dogs I've ever had bad tummies. You'll see the others like walk around, like oh my god, don't stand near that. And watering can comes out hose, pipe, hot wash brush, like all the things. Uh, get out there. But your rescue canine, it's your rapid support and and it's your stall rescue pace for dogs. This is so easy to use people.

Linda: 4:21

Forget that. You don't need to be bothered about trying to mix powders or anything. These syringes are so easy to use. You just fix it to the dose that the dog's going to need. So you said he had two mil. Perfect, not very much at all. Got my two mil, got your two mil. Then I would just open the side of the mouth so the loose skin, uh-huh in the cheek and bang squirt squirt. The stuff in bang squirt he will go.

Lauren Langman: 4:55

I don't like it, so don't do it near your best sofa and try and spit it on the floor and he'll go.

Linda: 5:01

So all I do is I hold his chin up. So so then he's going to keep trying moving it in his mouth and eventually he'll just swallow it.

Lauren Langman: 5:08

And you also said something last night that you did, which I thought was great, when you said about putting it down the side of his mouth, sort of with a finger sometimes, or just getting another way of getting it.

Linda: 5:17

Put it on the finger, put it in, even smear it on his tongue, drag it off, spit it down on the floor, Magic magic.

Lauren Langman: 5:31

Now, what I really like about a product like Rescue Canine, it's rapid support. It's your stool rescue paste for dogs. So for me it's actually very stressful as an owner having a dog pooing everywhere or having a bad tummy. Not only are you worried about the dog, you're cleaning up, you're coping with the smell. You might have other dogs, you might have other people, you might have children or family or mum or dad or granddad or grandma, or you might be grandma and you've got granddaughter.

Linda: 5:55

All of those scenarios are stressful and you're stressed that they might have an accident.

Lauren Langman: 5:58

That's the one that plays into my mind always yeah, and I mean I can tell you now like cleaning poo on this floor is a nightmare. Carpets oh my god. I had pebble dashing not that long ago from skittles. Matt said we should have taken a video ready for telling people about how to use it because within 24 hours she was back to normal. However, the pebble dashing of our gorgeous bathroom was not fun like and she really, and she hadn't told me. I all, I all I saw.

Lauren Langman: 6:21

I got up in the morning. It was 7 am. I got up, I walked into the bathroom and it was like some sort of scene. Um, and it was. It was everywhere. It was everywhere. Linda, I'll show you a picture. It was everywhere. I took a picture.

Lauren Langman: 6:32

First thing to do take a picture and go. What do I do with this? And your words are isn't that interesting? And what you're really thinking is for god's sake, what the hell is this? And Matt was like what's up? Lauren, isn't that interesting, matt, as you walk in there and the smell like knocks you out.

Lauren Langman: 6:47

I don't know about you, but I've got a hugely sensitive nose, like I notice, notice anything. I really like a nice smelling house. I like nice smelling dogs, I like nice smelling things. So to go into Poonami is like no fun for anyone. It's no fun, it's pretty disgusting. And so for me, immediately I picked her up, I got that into my mouth and I will use this. And typically it says on a product like this use it twice a day, both ends of the day, use this. And typically it says on a product like this use it twice a day, both ends of the day. I personally will use it multi times a day and I'll use it multi times a day until I get a firm stall. And when I say a firm stall, I mean a poo that's not sloppy all over the floor, I mean a poo that has shape and form. And I know you guys are thinking why are we talking poo shape and form? We're dog owners, we handle dogs all day long, you pick up poo all day long, so I wouldn't really overthink it.

Lauren Langman: 7:28

It's just the poo shape and texture, absolutely and what about you, linda, because I use that all day long.

Linda: 7:33

Typically it'll say am and pm but I use it all day long, so so the puppy got that all all day yesterday, so every few hours he was getting some of this and I thought we were on the mend yesterday afternoon. Um, because he's we're talking poo shape, poo shape. Uh it, it was starting to be firming up again. Well, not firming up, but just, rather than being explosive, more density and all of that. And watery, it got a little bit more texture. I thought, oh, that's good before. And the other thing I I noticed in that there may be no scientific evidence for this whatsoever, but I noticed they start. There's a point where they start to pee more. Yes, yes, because inflammation in the gut holds water. Yeah, and then if the inflammation starts to go down, they'll start to pee it out. Yeah, and I thought yesterday afternoon he was gonna be okay, but he had had some kibble and stuff, yeah, as a reward.

Lauren Langman: 8:24

Yeah, so I think that sets us off again back a bit, and that's something to be careful of, isn't it? What else are they getting in between? Um? So, thinking on your blood, yeah, just think, thinking a little bit smart, what they're having and actually sometimes um, an empty tummy for a little while isn't a bad thing, and especially if your dog really is food refusing, I actually will let them food refuse for a bit, because sometimes you know what it's like if you need to refuse food. Yes, it's actually your body telling you something. And, like I said, if your dog's lethargic, get to a vet. If your dog's not lethargic, then these are things that we do and these are things we we've got. Now you say you carry these types of things in your first aid kit. How does that make you feel?

Linda: 8:58

well, that means I've always got the all eventualities covered when I'm traveling, because there's nothing worse than having a dog on a van and living, you know, staying away from home and and these sorts of things happening and you've got nothing that you can use to do it. So I have a first aid kit on my van which includes the tubes of paste.

Lauren Langman: 9:17

Yeah, and you think it's a first aid kit and clean-up kit and it just makes life easier and we've got like the bin bag, we've got the spray, we've got these types of things, we've got like a and bacterial wine.

Linda: 9:28

Yeah, it's all there it's all there, all on my van, it's ready.

Lauren Langman: 9:30

We've even got dressings and bandages and it's all there it's all there and I think this is really important to acknowledge. Guys, it's all there and it's all ready to use. Now that one's obviously in the in. Like you said, you're doing that all day long and you can do that as often as you need to. It says when you've got an emergency, when you've got an emergency, that's what you use. You're not using that day-to-day, you're doing that in a punami, so using that in a punami. However, we also talked about there's lots of ways we can look after our dog's guts generally and, of course, there are like lots of good fermented foods. There's kefir and there's lots of other things that you can make at home, but also in a packet form that sometimes um is for me, a good go-to and actually it's going to get you millions and millions and millions of good gut bacteria. I know both of us will use ProBio. Yes, why do we?

Linda: 10:14

use that so that routinely goes into their food. That gives them a resilient gut biome? Yes, so that then you're less likely to get this sort of episode I've got with the puppy. Yeah, I wouldn't expect my older dogs to get into trouble with their gut biome because they are protected, because I'm constantly paying attention to building a healthy bacterial load.

Lauren Langman: 10:41

I'm looking at this now and I'm thinking actually I probably should use this instead of the one I'm using. It looks pretty darn good and so actually it's pretty strong. It is actually all in a human grade. So it's all human grade and I think that's good to know. For all of our products they everything canine is human grade, which is a really nice thing. Now, how do you give your dogs that so?

Linda: 10:59

that's mixed in their food. So mine are fed raw, but I make up a veg mix that goes with their meat, which includes some fermented products, and it includes this um, their probiotic, nice um, food, and me too, I might get raw.

Lauren Langman: 11:17

I pop it in a mix, I batch, cook, because I might say cook, I freeze. Yeah, with 10 dogs you kind of need to um, and for me, when I'm making a batch up, I will mix up that batch raw sort of tub and I'll put that into bones and then I freeze it. Why you can keep your probiotic frozen but you cannot heat it. So for me it's actually safer to put it in a freezer. So actually I always freeze it and I give them something. Then it's also enriching for them. So they've got something to do. Uh, and you were saying that actually, um, in the summer yours will be in a cool box if you've got any on the bio, or yeah, if I'm traveling, then it will go in the cool box.

Linda: 11:54

At the moment it's fine because, yeah, the temperature is low temperature is low.

Lauren Langman: 11:58

Basically, um, you're trying to keep it out of direct um sunlight and um you want to keep it between 10 and 25, which is still quite a sensible temperature doesn't go over 25, but to be honest, it doesn't go over that in the uk ever. Anyway, if you live in one of those places, pop it in the fridge, um, but those are sort of places that you can and all of this and keep in the fridge.

Linda: 12:16

Giving your dog a good gut bio is not just about avoiding episodes like I'm going through at the moment with the pup. It's about helping a dog that might have a bad skin or might be reactive and have because its tummy's not very comfortable. There's all sorts of reasons to really really care for your gut.

Lauren Langman: 12:37

I like that you said like naughty but nice dogs in particular you feel should have a level of probiotic always.

Linda: 12:43

Yes, always, always, because, if you think about it, if you're finding the world a stressful place in people that can cause tummy problems, people get either ulcers or they get irritable bowel syndrome, ibs is massive, isn't it?

Lauren Langman: 13:00

because stress is really really a big, a big factor? Yes, and naughty, but nice dogs, we know, are more stressed they are, so it's.

Linda: 13:09

It's just it should routinely be paid attention to it for naughty but nice dogs and I know you talked about fermented foods as well.

Lauren Langman: 13:16

Like for my dogs, that isn't always so, it's just there. It's something they always have, particularly if they're at heavy competition as well. The other thing at heavy competition, so both of our dogs compete. When you're at competitions, you are going to see more. There's more out there. There's more. There's more stress, there's more bugs yeah, there's more potential to get infection. There's more, um, poo, there's more, uh, everything else that goes with poo like there's, it's just, it's just more prone, because you're in an area with hundreds and thousands of dogs at times. So, um, for me, that is a good consideration, but I know you also add some different foods in, so you talked about your fermented foods, just so everybody gets an idea of that. What do you add? So?

Lauren Langman: 13:52

apple cider vinegar with mother is one that I and the mother looks like that stuff at the bottom.

Linda: 13:58

Yeah, it's a sort of smoky stuff, do you?

Lauren Langman: 14:00

ever take it yourself. No, oh, linda, I do, I swig it. It's actually quite disgusting and when Matt and I do it, we do this and then we go like this as we take it and then after that he normally will try and go in like an ice bath. He's got plunge pool. I actually at that point feel quite ill and go out and try and do something sunny, um, but uh, and it really. One thing I would not recommend is don't have apple cider vinegar and then oil. I did that once. I had like a um, a really good quality and like shine, like like an amiga. All right, oh my god, that was a horrible concoction. Apple cider vinegar and a really strong amiga war. No, none of that, we're not gonna. Sorry guys, we'll move on from that point. But yeah, apple cider vinegar with mother really important kefir is the other one, but that goes in my dog and what do you put in your kefir goat's?

Linda: 14:44

milk or cow's milk. Mine have cow's milk. Yeah, because I'm too lazy to buy goat's milk.

Lauren Langman: 14:51

I love that. No, you're good're good. I do feed them goat's milk. Yeah, I use goat's milk, but only because where we live we're such sort of rural territory we can actually buy it from Farmgate. See, I don't like the smell of goat's milk. Oh, it's disgusting, it's absolutely disgusting, and I don't actually like goat's cheese either Me neither.

Lauren Langman: 15:12

Actually disgusting, actually gross For the dogs acceptable. So we're going to use ProBio on a daily basis. We're going to use this one in an SOS Poonami experience. The other one that I'll use in the aftermath or during, depending on what's needed, is the Rescue Canine Sashays, and that's a real fast support as well. I know you have used these in the past lots and lots of times with good support For me. I'll use them post this. That's immediate and it's easy to administer. Like you said, it's ease of use, isn't it?

Linda: 15:43

That is so easy to use. It's so easy and you know a lot of people trot off to the bit and they get something similar to that anyway.

Lauren Langman: 15:51

Yeah, and actually you'll pay 60 pounds instead of like 10, 15, 20, depending on what you want to do, what size you want to consult fee yeah, I mean, you're looking at very different costs. Not that cost is everything, and I know that if your dog is lethargic, yes, get to the vet. But actually for me, the first 48 hours I can probably solve it. Yeah, um, if I can't solve it, then I'm off to the vet. We trot, haha. And but I actually wouldn't want to rush to the vet with a dog who's already potentially stressed, or or um compromised immunity, um, with a pup that's young and bad tummy, because I know there's a lot that I can do. First, now, with my sachets, I use those with um their food, and I do that. Or even it could be with kefir, yeah. Or it could be with um in my shaker. I could use it with fresh, yes, yeah, because actually it's really important your dog stays hydrated as well after any episode, isn't it?

Linda: 16:36

yeah, yeah, so, um, I've been using a bit of bone broth nice just to get some liquid into him. Good um, rather than plain water. Good um, but, but you've got so many electrolytes in this.

Lauren Langman: 16:48

It's actually all right for them to drink water, it's just as long as they're hydrated exactly that the electrolytes are taken care of, and I think this is where it's really important to acknowledge how you're going to look after that body. So the electrolyte, the balance and what's there again really important, so the combination of long-term yep, immediate action, sos punami. Yeah, aftercare, isn't it? It's that little bit of aftercare to make sure, as he goes on the mend, we're going to use that now. Lots of different real like reasons for poor tummies. We obviously talked about him being young, uh, him being poor gut microbiome, poor eater and traveling away from home and different food. So he had rich food in training.

Linda: 17:28

Like, there's a lot of things to take into consideration he's still not to learn not to pick up naughty things when he's out on the wall, mmm.

Lauren Langman: 17:39

And I remember Katie picking up a snail and swallowed it and I remember thinking that is awful and guys, slugs and snails are huge for lungworm problems and lungworm isn't a worm that you are are gonna um always be able to find and treat. So it's one of those tests that you really need to do a lungworm test, um, but ultimately try and stop them doing it. So don't let them pick up stones and snails and and things out and about, because all of them have consequences. And that's linda's um homework right now, like disengagement from the environment. She's working hard on it but he's a baby yeah, and he's going to do it.

Linda: 18:15

Interruption noise that's my go-to see it as normal.

Lauren Langman: 18:19

So see, it's completely normal when your puppy does things like this.

Linda: 18:21

Yeah of course they will. They're exploring the world and something sort of smells somewhat tasty, so I'll have a bit of that thing I'll have a bit of that.

Lauren Langman: 18:28

Thanks, um bless him. So so we've got um.

Linda: 18:32

The other tip I loved it was when you said you popped it on your finger sometimes, just remind everybody what you do there so that's good, down the side of the mouth, or if that's not possible, then I put it on my finger and open the mouth and I either scrape my finger across the teeth or down the tongue, so, and then I might do that and they will do this, won't they? Yeah, so you must support the head so that all the licking and moving it about in the mouth means it goes down the throat.

Lauren Langman: 18:57

So we've given you a bit of a tummy SOS. I know that it can be stressful for you, it can be stressful for us, it can be stressful for the family, it can be stressful for the household, it can be stressful for the floor, it can be stressful for the dog, it can be stressful for anyone who's involved in the dog and actually it can cause real upset in in many different ways, and particularly when you get a dog with like IBS, where it's common and it happens regularly. What we're going to say is there's so many solutions out there for you, so go grab some of the solutions.

Lauren Langman: 19:26

Yes, today there's a £10 off code that you can go and use. It's over literally in the AO Canine store and it's Happy Tummy. So it's Happy Tummy, is your £10 off code. You can get it off absolutely anything, so you can get this one really below cost price if you want it. That's the Rescue Canine Rapid Support. So it is Happy Tummy, that's your code and it's over in the AO Canine store. I'd love you to ask us more questions, to talk to us, to share your journey, because ultimately, if you don't need to head to a vet, it's a stressful experience.

Linda: 19:56

It's best for everybody. Absolutely. It's much better, if you can, to just deal with it at home and move on and like you said, you've got your kit.

Lauren Langman: 20:06

You've got your rescue kit, you've got your first aid kit. How do you feel when you're prepared, linda?

Linda: 20:10

Well, I always have to be prepared. That's part of your nature. I find it very hard not to be prepared and having to adjust when I've forgotten something. So my van is equipped with everything for the dogs, because they're the priority.

Lauren Langman: 20:29

So Linda's prepared. Are you prepared? Are you ready for Poonami? We hope it doesn't happen, and yet Bobble says some days it does Tummy care. Good gut microbiome, good preparation, good understanding, good knowledge and, most of all, make it a great day, guys. Go out, educate yourself, get ready for these situations, just in case they happen, and make it a really amazing day. Well done, linda. Have a good day.